MIJA RIEDEL: [Laughs.] 0000002946 00000 n She was just using me as a sounding board, of course, a fresh, young eye, whatever it was. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm. NEIL WILLIAMS: The flow, and if she had a group of figures, say she would make a dozen figures in a year, she would be building, say, a pair of them. And they're the pairone of the pairs of several that she gave to the Smithsonian. MIJA RIEDEL: You said something yesterday that I want to go back and revisit briefly. MIJA RIEDEL: Would you talk about a piece or two? Special ed kid, had trouble reading and writing. And, luckily, some of them are good artists and good painters, have known me for a long time. I think she knew what she needed. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I know after she started some of her health issues, there wassome of them looked tired, but at the same time they were still nonetheless magnificent. NEIL WILLIAMS: with their own work. And there's a whole other story about a local dentist who did these huge, enormous, really terrible sculptures, that came up about thewe'll go take a look at them later maybe and laugh at them. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's evolved slowly. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that's why I made so many bowls. MIJA RIEDEL: Rena talked about [a trip MR] she and Viola took back east, and sending [Viola and Patterson MR] on a train to New York together, coming up with a reason that she couldn't go so they would have a chance to chat. MIJA RIEDEL: That actually leads beautifully to this next question, which is, do you think there's a difference between artists that are trained in a university and artists that learn another way? . NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. She had so much going on, and she was building things so big, and they were getting so over the top in scale. I do. MIJA RIEDEL: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Any follow-up thoughts from the conversation last night? She made us sing Shakespeare. And she did, every step of the way I saw. So, I think I gravitated towards vessel-making, and connected with it immediately, and it's certainly evolved to other things, NEIL WILLIAMS: but it gave me a discipline, and it gave me sense of accomplishment and self-respect, I think, that was healthy and, NEIL WILLIAMS: it made me realize that it was possible to pursue this. Nah just asking because if it was he has to be a bloody idiot. [. And it was also, like I was trying to get at filling theimage filling the gap between the thought and the spoken word. And I know she. Where you went to school and what that was like? He's got an incredible history, and he certainly deserves more attention for his work and for being a great professor of ceramics. So, nothing came to you in terms of a new thought, or a new perspective, ornow I'll approach it from a slightly different angle today? NEIL WILLIAMS: Someone was calling me thethey said, "We're going to get you a moniker, we're going to call you 'the bowl guy' from now on." MIJA RIEDEL: Now which two are you talking about? I remember going into Stphane Janssen's collection in LA for the first time and he had a piece sitting next to a Dubuffet and, "Holy crap, that's". 0000112045 00000 n [Laughs.]. University systems, they certainly have their place. MIJA RIEDEL: You went along on those trips? And that made sense to me. . That scares me. And I also remember something funny about the Thomas Albright. Neil Williams was a top jockey, I remember him winning premierships in Brisbane, was the top rider there. [Affirmative.] So Iwhere I'm trying to think about Noguchi, talking about his time element and carving away, and how itthe all-consuming and meditative. He was playing music with some friends, and "How could you not show up to such a prestigious honor?" 0000116276 00000 n I consent to the use of following cookies: Necessary cookies help make a website usable by enabling basic functions like page navigation and access to secure areas of the website. Brown, oldyou know, '60s work. 1 because I know that when I do that, everything else works out.. You know. MIJA RIEDEL: her focus, and the life that comes into her eyes and comes into her movement in the studio, and at the same time, just that practiced routine. . Does it bringhave their been unexpected. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, in other words, you got to be making things you want to keep. NEIL WILLIAMS: And Arlene LewAllen was the best. So she tookif that ever came up, it was fuel for her, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: Sure, functional stuff, bowls and platters; trying to keep them interesting for myself. Another five years go by, and the mortality rate gets down to less than one percent over a 20-year period. So, it was nice for her to see so many of her students show up there. MIJA RIEDEL: Okay. . I think Viola, herself, said they enabled her to deal with a mixture of two and three-D, in the round. NEIL WILLIAMS: Spent some time even with Thiebaud on some workshops. NEIL WILLIAMS: In their work, and inalso, in them as human beings. 0000114555 00000 n tt@D-b`Rph1Vic 3cC6OH.{LF@s2ldhcxll\ApJ&:L|+3|gggjGc54Dh3f ?Z' NEIL WILLIAMS: wasn't as finished, and it seemed driven by a need and a compulsion to keepto keep working, to keep building, to keep itkeep it big andso, I don't know if that helps answer that question. %%EOF Some of your experiences will be small and simple, but others will stay in your righteous mind forever.. This site is maintained by Racing and Sports Pty Ltd (ABN 093 360 108) ("R&S"). [. You touch it, you've got a drawing without without a brush or without a pencil. 0000007053 00000 n It's like, "Ah, okay. The temple is something that I have tried to prioritize as my No. And I think it was alsoI also know that she had to delight in the fact that she was a little, short woman who was able to do that, and then splash all these great color field, you know, bring it to life with color, and still, at the time, outwork anybody around her. NEIL WILLIAMS: She worked hard on them but they were alsoI know, quite fun. NEIL WILLIAMS: But I especially remember her being very patient, very thoughtful, very generous, but also very caring about Violathe bigger picture of Viola's life. It's justsome of the feathering and some of the movement, I think, comes from that. And it's been very liberating, it's been very freeing. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh, isn't thatI mean, isn't thatcommon with all of us? It's just the cuts, they've gone from straight-line horizontal-vertical planes to diagonal and to curvilinear shapes. NEIL WILLIAMS: from Arts and Crafts, art school days, I gravitated back here. And I've spent the last 25 years on the intermediate side, so. So, it's a terrible burden, I think, in a way, to bear. For continued life, and exploration, and questioning, and celebration. And, when we got there, he was getting towards the end, and he was off on the last three plates, and it just about threw him so he had toViola kindly went up to him, "That looks so good, thank you so much." NEIL WILLIAMS: And she was very encouraging, but sheher quip was "Eventually, you can go back and get your masters, and I can send you anywhere in the country for graduate school on my recommendation." MIJA RIEDEL: and you talked about how instrumental Rena was to Viola's career, what a difference her arrival in Viola's life seemed to make to getting her work out there. MIJA RIEDEL: I'm thinking culturallyhow you learned ceramics so early on and worked with a fellow who studied in Japan, the feeling about ceramic pots there is completely different. This is card number three. And if someone else wanted to pick up andat their end, and if they wanted 50 percent of what I do, then they, it would have to be right. Cannes LionBritish Arrow AwardLIAArt Directors Club of New YorkGraphisAWWWARDSDubai LynxCreative ReviewRanked Top 3 Copywriter (Creativepool), "What a great guy to bounce ideas around with. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah, within the end of the first semester there, yeah. MIJA RIEDEL: They're extremely competent. ", NEIL WILLIAMS: And it worked and it made sense, so. MIJA RIEDEL: Now would you take chainsaw, as well, or whatever the saw was that Sam was describing and cut them up that way? NEIL WILLIAMS: It's mind and body. You can directly shop your flowers on Amazon. You could tell she reallythat was ashe was driven by that. Viola, I know, really missed it in her life, I think, because she didn't have those connections with many people, or certainly no childhood long friends that she was close to. 0000003975 00000 n It's all low fire, yeah? "But I'm not dead yet. I mean, Betty Asher's, Stphane Janssen's collection wasare you familiar with him at all? I'm not dead yet. And Charles walked in one morning and saw these doughnuts in front of her, a big old plate of them. Your testimony grows as you try to look for God and for our Savior in your everyday life, in the little things., Jada Brown shared her love for a painting titled Hand in Hand which depicts a little girl walking hand in hand with the Savior. ], MIJA RIEDEL: But in the past would that be something that would. You usually hear artists complaining and in some form about their dealer, or being stressed by the dealer, or being pressured to make certain lines of work orbut that never came. And it wasit was almost like she had hunted, killed it, brought it home for display. MIJA RIEDEL: There was a Spark episode that was about Viola. NEIL WILLIAMS: Love, they care, and they get what you're doing and want to do with your life, and they make a contribution however they can. And then,what kind of support systems are out there for you? But, no, I remember mentioning something about that at one of Charles' services aboutmemorial services about wanting to thank him forI understand he's one ofhe's the one who encouraged Peter Voulkos to hand build. Analytics cookies help website owners to understand how visitors interact with websites by collecting and reporting information anonymously. Racing and Sports is a Registered Trademark. Remember, there is a power that can cause those things to happen that need to happen, and that power comes from your faith in Jesus Christ., As an Apostle of the Lord, Elder Andersen blessed students to feel the Saviors hands reaching out as they reach out to Him. Other than Viola, of course. 0000030898 00000 n 0000010042 00000 n What do I do now? NEIL WILLIAMS: and again, those, I think, come fromwell, who knows where they come from. And I hope it doesn't lose any edge it may have. Some of them reminded me of Hieronymus Bosch for some reason. I know she read, MIJA RIEDEL: constantly, and she was a huge acquirer of images, but it seemed. NEIL WILLIAMS: So, there was physicality. And they're still not quite, know why, but there's an electrochemical in the cells of the heart which causes it to beat. And he would get some just fantastic readers to come in. 2 from 2, goes better with less fingers apparently. NEIL WILLIAMS: Yes, I went down there and my brother was living in Berkley. And so we'd have them all numbered and ready to go, but we'd put the show up in a few hours and they were likeeveryone was happy and purring and ready for a reception after that. NEIL WILLIAMS: Right. 0000004009 00000 n NEIL WILLIAMS: I like that; we got a kick out of that. MIJA RIEDEL: Yeah. So, she had me casting thousands of little pieces from these molds, these commercial molds that were given to her, and she spent all summer assembling them into overall images and they looked likeI don't know. NEIL WILLIAMS: And it made sense. They're almost like not markers. NEIL WILLIAMS: Just humiliate them, ridicule them until they get it. ], MIJA RIEDEL: This is Mija Riedel with Neil Williams in the artist's home and studio in Auburn, California on June 6, 2014 for the Smithsonian Archives of American Art. However, that experience also helped her better understand the Saviors Atonement. So there's a certain similarity and consistency, and there's a certain comfort in that. . They would just kill off their enthusiasm and their energy. NEIL WILLIAMS: Because she wasshe sold like crazy, and everyone liked her. There's been somewhat of those golden moments where you kind of go on into a collection and seeing my work next to some other painters, it was just like, "Oh my God, I can't believe," you know. And then he called one day and said, "Neil, I'm opening a little small gallery in Carefree, outside of Scottsdale. But, in the meantime, I'm content and I'm still making, I think good work for me. They want to review their life so that they have a sense that it had some meaning, that we had a cause that we at least embraced and tried to fulfill. He said it was so bad. So there's a certainalso, which clay, I think, brings aboutthere's a certain naturalness, and there's a certain human quality that it's a natural conductor for. ", "I have worked with many different Creative Directors at a variety of top agencies, and Neil is one that I would definitely recommend. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes. The power of color throughout is very consistent. MIJA RIEDEL: And are they standing still? But there was also something veryresolved about it too. Anything you woke up thinking about when the owl woke you up at about two o'clock in the morning? NEIL WILLIAMS: I try and keep themwell the first few years they were a straight line, andbut I try and keep them recognizable. NEIL WILLIAMS: And I think that's also whatand the discipline was there, and I think that also what helpedin the future when we talk about Viola, why she connected with me, and why I connected with her and why she was immediately "Would you come help me and work with me? She loves testing situations, and may have more to offer. Or does it feel like a continuous line mostly? It shifted, I noticed, when she graduated to the big overblown men. NEIL WILLIAMS: So I think that she was naturallyshe was on that energy of that elusive whatever-it-is about perceiving and then practicing and reacting to it. And we're so full of ourselves now, like we've invented shit. And that can come inartwork can come in a number of different facetshow you live your life, writing, how you influence, impact, socially, your circle; how you are remembered; or it can be through artwork. As an ambulance rushed him to the hospital, something unexpected happened. What is important to you to try and bring to the classes or workshops that you teach? Even though taking the time can be a sacrifice, temple attendance can provide peace, shared BYU student Jessie Ebert. Because once boredom sets in, or once you, you know, you talkyou see so many artists or crafts people who go one automatic pilot, and the work loses its' soul, and it shows. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a certain knowingness, I think, about it now, that there wasn't before. NEIL WILLIAMS: I was working with clay. So, NEIL WILLIAMS: Yeah. I get that." NEIL WILLIAMS: And I heard, 40 years ago, so you got to find something to do in life that you're not going to get bored with. NEIL WILLIAMS: And his writing, too, especially about her work, was very strong. And, she just helped with the cups. MR]you were talking about the importance of family to her. They might have been. NEIL WILLIAMS: Another five years, the back. NEIL WILLIAMS: We used to go out every Saturday to theor, every other Saturday to the Alameda Flea Market, where she collected all her littleher little images from a lot of. Michele was married for nearly 30 years to the physician Martin MacNeill and was the mother of And that was my skill thatI mean we all have our saving graces. This is not an easy path.". So it was a completely different sense. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. She thought that if more of them had this simple little formula, this simple little exercise might have helped in another crisis period in time that so many artists, I meanRothko, Van Gogh, Gorkywe lost all of them in a certain period of time, when they reach that crisis period. NEIL WILLIAMS: and activating the surface. It was one of the grandmother figuresI didn't think it it's not like followed up and said, "Alright. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's a certainnot that I want to take anybody's breath awaybut there's a certainwhen you're making it even, there's a certain gasp or a certain vibrancy I think there. MIJA RIEDEL: Did you ever have that kind of experience? I knew I had to get away from Viola and that environment at a certain point. MIJA RIEDEL: All right. Daily Racing Multiple. NEIL WILLIAMS: There's been moments of frustration. How do you make that and buy yourself time and energy to do your work, your exploratory work, the celebration aspect of it? And so, that was just overwhelming to me, that some of those same people wereI mean, like, Betty Asher and her cup fetish, NEIL WILLIAMS: that Asher formand I remember, because meeting her through installing Viola's show and realizing she had the cup fetish, and, "Oh my gosh, I make little cups." You know, I said, "What about those other colors?" NEIL WILLIAMS: Artists always get into trouble or lose out on them unless they're special. MIJA RIEDEL: I can really see Gorky, in particular. Depends on the instructor. NEIL WILLIAMS: Oh yes, it was a draw for her. NEIL WILLIAMS: Well, to see what was done and then you look at the dates on some of those things. NEIL WILLIAMS: Absolutely, and he was a magnificent, generous source of information. But not so much art books. They should pick you up and transport you elsewhere. MIJA RIEDEL: Did she ever talk about it at all? I had no idea." Like I said, he was older, did a lot of her reading and herwriting for her, and was the premier voice behind her of how good she was and how great her work is, and going to be. MIJA RIEDEL: That is an interesting detail. NEIL WILLIAMS: It wasI mean it was even disturbing at times, but. If my work can do that, that's all I could hope for. MIJA RIEDEL: and that he really had a poetic heart and spirit and that [the war had really MR] left its mark. And I owned a gallery in Sacramento briefly. And so few people realize, oh, that's easy. Do you have a recollection of Rena introducing Viola to Patterson? NEIL WILLIAMS: I think that's probably one of the reasons I've kind of like retreated. About a year later, he met Kathy Williams. She's not a there's no excuses not to be successful, not to do your work. NEIL WILLIAMS: The paintings became spectacular. [Affirmative.] I think about that still when I work, little things. She understood her. Not to worry. NEIL WILLIAMS: I thought so, too. NEIL WILLIAMS: And the quote coming out of that was that she said, "You have to remain compulsive and leave some work unfinished. Here you'll find all collections you've created before. Mm-hmm. MIJA RIEDEL: But the principal and art teacher encouraged you to use it and then you'd cart the work over to. [Affirmative.]. An amazing colorist. You became her assistant in '77? Your email address will not be published. Rena was very, very patient with Viola, and very, very patient with making sure that she got connected to other peoplethe proper representation in New York. Do a four-week summer workshop. NEIL WILLIAMS:off the deep end, if Iyou know I used tothere was a period it was like I'd look and I'd see what other people were doing and the attention and the accolades and thesome other peopleand the independence and the ability that they had to explore because they could afford to then. MIJA RIEDEL: I thought you had said otherwise yesterday, but okay. So that's just one aspect of why clay is so responsive. NEIL WILLIAMS: She hadfinishing up the beautiful little, smaller grandmother figures which were my favorite, will all the really nice painting and the fine china paint and lines. 0000003077 00000 n This site uses different types of cookies. It's amazing some of that stuff was made and successfully made and not a piece got broken, and there was hundreds and hundreds of body parts travelling across country and for ceramics as a material, it traveled well, and it was successful, and it was tremendous. xref NEIL WILLIAMS: And itwe talked about itthe lan vital, the vital energyI was getting that back from the pieces. Not just everyone who wanted to grab her once they saw this incredible cache of artwork in her backyard. I got to see you. So there was a. I mean, come on. NEIL WILLIAMS: There are some that are out to tryjust to try and survive in the creative field like artists are. She deserved it. NEIL WILLIAMS: It changed their lives, and they probably still talked about it and thought about that every time they picked up a brush. Neil Williams was a top jockey, I remember him winning premierships in Brisbane, was the top rider there. ], NEIL WILLIAMS: But it's at the right time and slowing down, enjoying the experience. He hasmany strengths, including creating big brand idea/concepts, crafting emotive brand stories that flow effortlessly and leading the development and ideation of advertising campaigns. Viola wasliked to be in control. NEIL WILLIAMS: But it was funny, because she would get so scattered that she would almost like self-implode on the verbiage. But he knew that. WebNeal Williams - 2013 Medeski, Martin & Wood - Spring Tour Concert Poster. MIJA RIEDEL: When you say great European work, what do you mean? MIJA RIEDEL: Or did they even exist? We're in Oakland, there is no there there without those trees." And they had one huge wall, and this [Laughs.] So he was like all over the"What are you doing now?" NEIL WILLIAMS: So the perception and practiceI thinkI mean, Viola was there. I thought his move to the Gold Coast was based on I just wanted a couple of specifics. NEIL WILLIAMS: And she started to eventually, but she thought, "Oh my gosh, they're going to go around me and sell," and so it was ironic because, 20-something years later, I would meet somebody like Sandy Besser in Santa Fe, who donated the work to the de Young Museum, or someone would say, " Oh gosh, I've been buying your work for 26 years." She had started doing the big men. NEIL WILLIAMS: There'sit's like, and then one of my brother says, "Hey, I saw your piece in a show in the de Young Museum." For Neil Williams, the pressures on and off the track had NEIL WILLIAMS: I'm feeling much better, thank you. NEIL WILLIAMS: I don'tI never worked so hardI mean, I never tried to figure it out. 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